This rare and extremely insightful commentary delves into the properties of silver ions and particles, as related by a discussion between Dr. Bart Flick ( Silverlon Wound Dressing ) and the eskimo.com silver list.
Read the story of an ear infection
cured with colloidal silver and hydrogen peroxide. Two rounds of antibiotcs
failed to address the infection, but colloidal silver remedied the
Read the story of an ear infection cured with colloidal silver and hydrogen peroxide. Two rounds of antibiotcs failed to address the infection, but colloidal silver remedied the condition promptly:
Items both in brackets and italicized are editor additions to the text.
My partner and CEO of Argentum Medical, Mr. Gregg Silver, asked that I comment on recent E-mails. With respect to Mr A's comments 24 August 2001:
2. Driving silver ions via an electrical gradient increases the ionic silver release between 4 to 8 fold as well as the depth of penetration of silver ions into the surrrounding tissue. Bimetallic application is directly dependent upon the surface area of the bimetallic junctions with metals more noble that silver (i.e. gold platinum etc) but not less noble (i.e. copper).
3. The patents will give one only a brief overview.
4. Silver ions in the proper concentration cause fibroblasts to alter their normal cellular morphology. To say that silver ions create stem cells is unfounded from my reading of the literature and my work over the past 25 years.
With respect to M's comments 24 August 2001:
1. The finger tip amputation case was my patient. The tip was amputated through the lower third of the nailbed with the nail matrix intact.
2. With respect to amputated finger tips in children, please refer to the Illingsworth paper in the early 1970's. The key to understanding this case rests with understanding the basic mechanisms of maintaining a "blastema". From my experience three key elements are essential: (1) proper moisture levels, (2) proper conductivity and (3) proper control of wound bioburden.
With respect to S's comments 24 August 2001:
1. Agree that all silver containing products are NOT equal.
2. With reference to Dr. Becker statements, I do not feel that the comments as quoted are completely correct. While a medical student in the 1970's, I had the opportunity to work in Dr. Becker's lab. I have the greatest respect for his creativity and intelligence. But I stand behind my comments referenced above.
With kind regards,
Bart Flick M.D.
And might I say, I think you have a marvelous product in Silverlon, and wish you every success with it, not least for the relief it will bring those unfortunate enough to require its use.
Sir, I grave your indulgence for a moment. I am most interested in the development of silver oxide, that you mention, I presume at the silver/liquid interface. Does this involve the presence of dissolved oxygen gas, and will this occur in plain water or are biological fluids required? I believe that the discovery of this phenomenon gave rise to the term oligodynamic, and that some investigation has been done on this subject in the past, but I have been unable to find any reference to this so far.
Bart Flick MD:
Brief thoughts provided to your questions:
1. The silver oxide intermediate requires dissolved oxygen.
2. The oligodynamic action of silver release may occur in plain water or biological fluids.
3. More free silver ions are available in plain water because there are less reactive molecular species to react with.
4. Reference on oligodynamic can be found in the literature between 1890 and 1910.
5. The reaction of the metallic silver surface and the bacterial cell wall is most likely a reduction oxidation process to a major extent and a non-covalent reaction to a minor extent. The silver oxide imtermediate is probably not a factor with respect to the solubility factors of silver oxide.
6.The debate between ionic versus elemental silver rests with accurate data via atomic absorption spectroscopy to determine the actual percentages of ionic versus elemental, and with electron microscopy. There is a lot of speculation but very little hard data. Please understand that silver can have an effect in an ionic form and a metalic form. The better of the two forms is not possible for me to know based upon the data.
Bart Flick M.D.
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