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Open Letter by Ed Mccabe | Statement of Truth - Author, Ed Mccabe,
Posted by Peter Jovan
Response to Saul Energy
By Ed McCabe
Nothing stings sharper than the barbs coming from a friend you
have trusted and respected. After a long train of continual abuse,
events have reached the place where I cannot continue to be stung
and just stand idle. Saul has, without any provocation, unjustly
and unkindly stung me several times. I do not know why he would
turn toward the darkside, but in my case he has.
For years he has stolen and used substantial parts of my intellectual
properties and copywritten works. He has stolen major parts of
my copywritten work and claimed it is
He has stolen major parts of my copywritten work and
claimed it is his and published it under his own name.
stolen major parts of my copywritten work and claimed it is
his and published it under his own name and never given me proper
He has stolen major parts of my copywritten work and claimed
it is his and published it under his name and not given
me proper credit while illegally giving other people permission
to also steal it and profit from their unauthorized use and publication
of my personally discovered at great cost private ideas.
has enabled these people to further injure me by encouraging
their publishing and attempting to copyright my already copywritten
works illegally under their own names. There is no mention of
Saul wounds my respect for him when he says he
has NOT learned SUBSTANTIAL things from my work.
my respect for him when he tries to explain it all away by
inferring he knows more than I do.
Saul wounds my respect for
him when he tries to explain it all away by saying I am often
My science, to the limit I use it, is beyond reproach and always
double checked with experts I respect for accuracy before publication.
If you or your `expert' have a different opinion about it as
scientists are always meant to have while in search of truth,
we can politely disagree while truth is sought, but it is quite
improper and mean spirited to tell everyone you are always right
and one of your valuable mentors is wrong solely out of your
ego and possible sales greed.
I challenge anyone on or off this world to find anything untrue
or intentionally misleading in any of my works especially in
my most recent publications.
Everything in my encyclopedic book Flood your Body With Oxygen,
Therapy For our Polluted World is true and correct, as far as
is humanly possible as of the date of publication. Everything
in Flood your Body With Oxygen is the Industry Gold Standard
for Active Oxygen Therapies.
If any expert disagrees with an actual, not imagined, statement
or assessment I have made, let them step forward into the light
to engage in polite debate, and we will settle the matter for
the good of all as best we can.
Here's a general example I have too often run into. I will interview
hundreds of people about a particular technique. They will all
be successful and safe with it. Some `expert' in another related
area - who has interviewed no one - publicly declares it doesn't
work, I guess solely so he can protect his seemingly expert status.
No one suffers from publicly displayed ego battles more than
the suffering public, and I was pressured and lobbied into writing
this at all when friends could not stand to hear me spoken of
as Saul has been doing to me.
I decided that to let untruth remain unchallenged for too long
may imply silent consent, so I am writing this for a public forum
now for that purpose and in hopes of educating my errant brother
and getting him to stop hurting me and start being polite again.
Experts" throwing out barbs at me because they secretly
somehow perceive me more well known than they are - or a challenge
to their fiefdom - only show the world their ignorance.
events change our viewpoints of currently defined truth, I
will immediately correct my words, my thinking, and my current
publications as fast as I can do so to be fully in line with
truth. Truth and helping you is all I care about. If I am wrong,
show me and I will change. It diminishes our industry and professions
to have this disparagement going on.
Saul had no reasons other than ego, possibly greed, and definitely
lack of RESPECT to do all this to me. I have never badmouthed
him behind his back as he has done to me. I have always only
praised him and his work and his generators and always said good
things about them and him.
I often lectured - around Canada and in the Montreal area especially
- and referred all inquiries to Saul and his agents to help him
get started because I thought he would have a good machine when
perfected. I was never compensated for these sales I created
solely to help him and the people. He did send me one early unit
out of kindness, and I am grateful for that.
But, until I learned of his recent public attacks upon my character,
knowledge, and work, I was letting other things that he did to
me slide. From the recent sound of Saul and others I doubt
they have ever studied or even read my new book. So they imagine
what I say in their own minds and declare it untrue.
He has made lots of money off my work and never offered to share
it with me.
He did pay expenses to bring me to Vancouver and do
a lecture series. He and his friends were very kind to me,
my brain for days before and after the weeklong multi-city
have the hat they gave me and fondly remember the spirit
it was given in.
When Saul was not there with me on this trip his assistants
questioned me constantly, thereby gaining the data I freely gave
away out of camaraderie. This enabled its use later by Saul.
publicly say they learned nothing but general triviality from
me and my books and tapes is untrue in the extreme, and totally
disrespectful of what I went through, and that they have profited
so easily from.
I often run into this. I collected so much data and made it
so easy for so many to learn, they all forget where it came from,
and that there was NOTHING public when I started. 1,500+ radio & TV
shows and energy draining speaking platforms and other hardships
later, we now have an active oxygen industry that everyone takes
for granted. If you do not honor your teachers you cheapen yourself.
If he disrespected me in some other way not mentioned above please
let me know.
Under duress, Ed McCabe
December 31st 2004
Response by Jason, Jan 1, 2005
Thank you for posting the recent letter by Ed Mccabe. Do you
think that Ed would mind if I added it to an actual page on our
website, where it would be more viewable by those who may be
seeking balance in the issue?
Ed is one of my alt med researcher idols, and I can think of
a few people, over the years, who perhaps owe their lives to
that fact. I first began researching the viability of oxygen
therapies about nine years ago. Obviously, in the United States
there is quite a bit of bad press on the subject. It was Ed Mccabe's
first book on oxygen therapies that allowed me to gain a correct
perspective, which has guided me truly since that time.
After all that Ed has been through, he deserves a strong measure
of respect, and I was also surprised at Saul Pressman's flippant
In fact, this email discussion group was born to be certain
that all civil and on-topic oxygen discussion could commence
and continue without sensorship.
In the past, Jim's Oxy List certainly sufficed; I was a member
for many years under various email addresses, and I felt that
Jim ran a fine ship ( so to speak ). Upon his untimely demise,
and since this time, when Saul Pressman took over the list, I've
seen quite a shift in the quality of content.
If the oxygen therapy world were stagnant, with everything known,
printed, and available to the searching public, I would likely
have not been as concerned.
But the truth is, I believe we're just starting to scratch the
surface, and I'm certainly seeing a resurgence in the United
States with ozone therapy, especially the "affordable" home
ozone sauna therapy.
There are a great many issues that need to be explored by researchers,
and we need those people with world-wide experience to bring
to the table the experience and knowledge-- more often than not,
currently not translated into English-- so that people have access
to unbiased information and authentic experience.
I had the opportunity to briefly correspond with Wayne Bainwright
many years ago. While my conclusion was that his therapy was
insanely expensive ( especially concerning travel expenses from
the United States ), I respected the manner in which he maintained
With the Alt Med and Natural Med world, I'm much more of a philanthropist
than anything else. I'm constantly looking for ways to provide
to people who-- having been devestated by illness that has left
them near-penniless and insuranceless-- NEED it most.
Two weeks ago, I had an incredible meeting with a geneticist.
This individual was pre-med before becoming disillusioned with
the state of medical and personal care in the United States.
He has about five years of extensive experience with ozone therapy.
He has since lost quite a bit of interest in ozone, as he is
just entering the private sector in a very lucrative field, where
he feels he can do much good.
He explained to me a whole emerging genetic science involving
the immune system and oxygen's role-- oxygen as organic peroxides--
in the decision making process of the immune system at a cellular
level. One day, I hope to document his findings further, as they
are strikingly significant. He told me he believes that ozone
therapy, as a localized effect, actually resets the immune system.
In particular, he mentioned that any physical trauma that results
in an inflammatory response "permanently" and adversely
effects the immune system, and that this effect is localized
to the point of injury-- or area of infection. Ozone therapy,
he stated, actually has the power to reset the immuno-response,
managed at the cellular/genetic level.
He also stated, of course, that a ton of research would be required
to substantiate these observations.
However, his theory has matched my observations exactly, and
is helping to begin to explain some of the many possible "side
ozone sauna therapy.
As an example, a co-researcher experienced the following response:
After two months of near-daily ozone sauna therapy, a lesion-based "rash" appeared
on the right arm. I asked myself, why the right arm and not the
left? Upon further investigation, I discovered that this individual
received weekly allergy shots in this arm while a child, at the
precise location where the exteriorizations were occuring.
Coincidence? Perhaps, perhaps not.
I'm glad that Ed published the letter. It helps to answer some
of the questions I've had concerning Saul's ideology; or, perhaps
I should say to begin a further avenue of inquiry. Saul would
group all of these exteriorizations into a general category:
healing crisis. However, my observations to date strongly indicate
that we should look closer at these phenominon associated with
ozone sauna therapy. There IS a difference between: A toxic response,
an exteriorization of a latent condition, an immuno-response,
and a herxheimer-type reaction. Closely looking at these things
may eventually provide a means to address them
What some call "rash"? To date, I've seen 3 very different
forms. The red rash that produces small "corpuscules" with
very little inflammation responds nearly instantly to a blend
of Illite, Bentonite, and Oligodynamic silver magma applied topically;
however, I also need more data in the form of more experience.
I agree with Ed, that we don't need childish and ego-based arguements,
pitting personality against personality. It does not serve anyone's
Never-the-less, if the truth is never shared, then more often
than not, illusion reigns while it can.
Response by Peter Jovan, Jan 2, 2005
We are all on [email protected] I am sorry to
say, but I have of course group as well. I have also made another
group and am holding it back, just in case called, [email protected]
so I don’t think anybody will be able to stop anything
I have talked to Ed about all of this in length and he is putting
together an answer for all of it, but both of us are against
opening this up as debate or it will get ugly and time consuming,
something we both do not have or want.
You are free to use his
post in whatever way you like and I encourage you to do so.
He is also very grateful for your comments
and appreciates them more than you can imagine.
I agree with you
on the fact that we are just scratching the surface and we truly
need to do a lot of research and most of
all correctly as well as have it published. As you may or may
not know, I do not believe in Ozonated saunas to the extent that
others do, there are many reasons for this and I do not however
stop anyone or discourage them from doing it if it is what they
believe. I only advise that they use the right equipment and
maintain safety as in all issues related to ozone therapy. Please
don’t think of any of that as anything other than though
rough. Myself and my colleagues have not yet been able to establish
the potential science in ozonated saunas but have been able to
establish it in saunas alone, so you might say, the jury is still
It is true that I had worked with Basil for two years and I
am not ashamed of that. I was one of the people that lost more
money than Saul’s friend but I took it as a challenge and
educated myself more to what he was doing in regards to ozone
application rather than what he was doing to rip people off.
At this time I have corrected and perfected his way of using
ozone to a place where it can both be used safely and much cheaper
than what he had quoted others. This is the best form of ozone
therapy without doubt and Ed agrees as well as others in the
field. However putting it in application in this world will be
nothing short of a battle like no other. So, onward we go in
our quest for a better healing modality.
I completely concur with your geneticist friend and yourself
on the rash issue, it is no coincidence but you must realize
that the action you speak of can also occur with roper cleansing
of the body and saunas without ozone. Yes, also there are many
types of rashes, which again is another reason for study, but
first I want to address the issue of the components being used
in the manufacture of units, saunas and everything in between
as it does aggravate me that some can just make statements such
as “well, we see no deterioration of plastic so why can’t
we use it” that coming from a lay person is acceptable
but coming from a person that deals with science speaks volumes
of their ignorance and for someone that deals with people’s
lives it is nothing short of criminal. This industry needs to
check itself and demand that only ozone proof components and
accessories be used in both manufacture and application. We,
as people are exposed to enough pollutants and do not need someone
who is supposedly trying to help us eliminate that potentially
I will post to your group if you like but I would also encourage
you to come to ours and also encourage you to keep doing what
you are it warms me to know that you are there for humanity.
May God Bless You And Keep You Well:
Professor Ozone (Peter)
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